"We Better Chat, 5"

"The Hidalgo series, then, seems to be a bit of a departure, Hucka D., like the similarly short Rose Hill. [both are 10 collage series, as opposed to the 20 collages of Greenup, Yale-Newton, Oblong, and Wheeler-Jasper]"

Hucka D.:

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You must always keep this overall "map" in mind when examining the 10x10. We must, I mean. It's all about balance between the various series. There are 3 types of series, each type containing two series within it. These are, in the order they are found, Greenup/Oblong, Rose Hill/Hidalgo, and Yale-Newton/Wheeler-Jasper. On this map these dualities are on opposite sides of the overall 10x10 wheel of 100 collages, as well as colored in complementary ways (green/red, orange/blue, and yellow/violet). Also note that Yale and Wheeler make sub-opposites, as well as Newton/Jasper. If you decide or choose to divide either or both Yale-Newton and Wheeler-Jasper into their two individual series.

bb:

The way I'm looking at it, Hucka D., is that you have a hierarchy, of sorts, of series within the 10x10. Greenup/Oblong comes at the top to me, because these represent series that are both composed of 20 collages and which can't be broken down further [into further series]. The way the two series are animated is quite interesting in its contrast, Hucka D. Greenup, as you said before, is a kind of "perfect" series, laying the groundwork for all to come. The four pairs of animation collages (5/6, 10/11, 15/16, and 20/1) are what could be called "classical" animations, or, in one part of the definition, pictures that have the exact same overall dimensions and can be toggled back and forth between each other to create the animation. Now in Oblong you also have animations, but they are fewer, and none are as "classical". All involve pictures that have either different dimensions or, in one case, have to be turned sideways with each other to create the true dimension.

Hucka D.:

That would be Oblong 20 and Oblong 01.

bb:

Yes. Returning to my heirarchy idea, then you have Yale-Newton and Wheeler-Jasper in the next pair, but below Greenup/Oblong. This is because they are formed of 20 collages apiece, true enough [just like Greenup and Oblong], but can be broken down into two series of 10 collages each as well. That is, Yale-Newton can be broken down, if needed or necessary, into Yale and Newton, and the same thing would go for Wheeler-Jasper.

Hucka D.:

Each sub-series also forms an internal loop, just like Greenup and just like Oblong. But the overall, combined series do not.

bb:

Really, they are only called Yale-Newton and Wheeler-Jasper because they were composed as a whole or as one chunk, in one span of time. Strangely, perhaps, each series always took almost exactly a month to create, Hucka D. Very lunar progression, then.

Hucka D.:

You really can't go any faster with them. The whole month is needed, but not much more, as you also found out.

bb:

Then in the third and last pair in my hierarchy, we have Rose Hill/Hidalgo. These only contain 10 collages, and also don't loop into each other. They appear most removed from Greenup and Oblong, more like individual pieces of art. But there's also one animation pair in the center of each.

Hucka D.:

Rose Hill 06 and Rose Hill 07, interestingly [Hucka D. means that it's interesting to him that most other animations occur between 05 and 06 collages of any series], and then Hidalgo 05 and 06. But, yes, I agree with your proposed hierarchy, which I might reword as follows:

Greenup/Oblong
Yale-Newton/Wheeler-Jasper
Hidalgo/Rose Hill

or...

red/green
yellow/violet
blue/orange

Let's now go to the Temple of TILE in Klein and look at the Tyle Cube, baker b. Nice you inserted the cube above a Linden tree this time (smile).

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bb:

Same 6 colors... yes. But I think the blue/orange pairing can turn into violet/orange, as we have on the cube in the numbers 0 and 1. This means that the 4, um, major series, or the series that make up 20 collages, can be directly associated with the letters of Tyle, or TILE. Red, green, yellow, blue then. I mean in this, Wheeler-Jasper is colored blue according to this new mapping, and not violet.

Hucka D.:

Correct. This is TILE. Or Tyle. You better think about that more.

bb:

Thank you.

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